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Post Re: GoPro HERO HD 720p vs 1080p mode - and youtube vs vimeo
then in your editor just select GoPro Cineform codec & your settings for your export, Simon - this will auto update in Magix


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Post Re: GoPro HERO HD 720p vs 1080p mode - and youtube vs vimeo
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Using Cineform to convert RAW Footage straight off the GoPro HD you can see the changes it makes, and the size of the files too


Dags, is that showing it went from 15Mbps off the camera to 22Mbps after the conversion?

I reckon if you uploaded the 15Mbps camera file to youtube, it would look better than the 22Mbps cineform video. Because youtube would have to do more compression on the cineform video.

More testing needed I reckon :D

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Post Re: GoPro HERO HD 720p vs 1080p mode - and youtube vs vimeo
See wes

there is a LOT of crap that goes on in the background with these cams

Dags

What is the advantage of Cineform? I intend now to get back into editing at home. (I found i had :cussing BangHead BangHead BangHead BangHead ) Bloody idiot Plugged my video card into a x4 slot on my mother board instead of a x16 slot.

I have just upgraded to a Nvidia card and it take Huge load off the CPU and now editing hardly puts a strain on the computer. (I am reffering to my desktop) Much easier to do now.

My main Hope with newer cams out is that they do more onboard compression and have a larger more powerful processor on board. Thats the hope any way. Then you will end up with higher quality and smaller file size off the cam.


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Post Re: GoPro HERO HD 720p vs 1080p mode - and youtube vs vimeo
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dags wrote:
Using Cineform to convert RAW Footage straight off the GoPro HD you can see the changes it makes, and the size of the files too


Dags, is that showing it went from 15Mbps off the camera to 22Mbps after the conversion?

I reckon if you uploaded the 15Mbps camera file to youtube, it would look better than the 22Mbps cineform video. Because youtube would have to do more compression on the cineform video.

More testing needed I reckon :D


I agree, I'm only showing what the GoPro Codec does to RAW Footage & how it upspecs & converts the file PRE Editor & using the Higher HD output, the approx 6GB file edits easier than the original lighter file. The POST editing is what counts to keep the file blocks & Pixels clear & sharp while compressing the file back to an uploadable size & bitrate that's handled correctly by the players.

Without full knowledge of every aspect of editing, remember Cineform (GoPro) is a hollywood level production team, so the knowledge & equipment is at that level, all I could suggest is trying every conceivable file type & output until you find the sweet spot.

I just use Magix & export using WMV, it's simple, fast & good enough for me. About a year or 2 ago I used 1 piece of RAW footage & made 60 odd exports & uploaded the best of them for sampling, it took ages and some SD footage came out as good as HD. A couple of the others switched to Magix after that.

The simplest of tricks for smoother playback is making sure you change your editor project settings to import the RAW footage frame rate exactly as the cam records it, ie: 30FPS might actually be 29.97FPS (makes a difference) then export the same.

It's interesting also to see that the super slow mo in the GoPro2, 120fps is only in standard def, but look at the quality of some of the clips, another trick to keeping file sizes down - what do they do ?

Have fun, I'd love to know all their secrets - if I did I'd be in Hollywood :director but I'd rather be riding in Queensland making 1/2 assed clips occasion18

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Post Re: GoPro HERO HD 720p vs 1080p mode - and youtube vs vimeo
Here's an orig file uploaded in SD



Here it is done in Magix with default export settings


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Post Re: GoPro HERO HD 720p vs 1080p mode - and youtube vs vimeo
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See wes

there is a LOT of crap that goes on in the background with these cams

Dags

What is the advantage of Cineform?

Simon



Check out their tech blog, you'll be gone for days i reckon
http://techblog.cineform.com/?cat=66

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