View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Wed 13 Dec, 2017 8:53 pm



Reply to topic  [ 45 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
 Trials tyre test 
Author Message
TRAIL PORN STAR
User avatar

Joined: Thu 16 Jul, 2009 7:08 pm
Posts: 3159
Location: Rio Brisbanero
Post Trials tyre test
As most of you on here know i have always been a big fan ( and still are ) of the Bridgestone m 404 rear tyres
However yesterday i fitted a Michelin Trials tyre to the back of the 300 Husky , because over the years i,ve heard there brilliant etc,etc
So today i went out to Beerburrum with Freak ( another trials tyre user ) and Saff for its maiden voyage , it was only an easy ride but i did get the chance to test it in a few places eg Fridge Hill twice , tower hill twice and a fast ( for me ) blast through some sandy singletrack
So here is what i,ve noticed so far
My 1st run up fridge hill i made a bad line choice , and i can honestly say if i was running the Knobbie i would of struggled but the trials tyre did literaly grip when i thought it wouldn,t and got me to the top
My 2nd run up was just easy :o
Coming down is a different story
On the Tower hill it was much the same however i found i was actualy looking for the bigger ledges and still it just powered up
On the singletrack however its a different story , the grip under power is brilliant BUT coming into a corner i generaly use a lot of rear brake to slide the bike into the corner , but this is were they struggle once you lock up a trials tyre you are basicaly on a sled , as they don,t stop also if you lay the bike over a long way in the corner they will step out without much warning ( Kind of reminds me of a road bike when you lean it over that far you that you run out of tyre )

So Hear is what i,ve come up with so far

Hill Climbing it is unbeleiveable
Downhills it is completely shithouse
Singletrack i,m still not sure
Fire roads they do roll around a bit but you do get you,se to that real quick , and they do do big controllable slides with ease ( my only concern would be an emergancy stop ( where it locks up ) coz as i said before once it locks up your essentialy on a 2 wheeled taboggan


I,ll add more over the coming weeks icon_thumright


Sun 13 Nov, 2011 7:34 pm
Profile
aka Sprocket
User avatar

Joined: Mon 13 Jul, 2009 6:47 pm
Posts: 2518
Post Re: Trials tyre test
Looks like you have gone to the DARK SIDE Loony :ky

I wont try one as i like to be able to STOP laughing9

_________________
[b]GO HARD OR GO HOME
WR450 A 2011 OOOOOHHH YEEEAAAA


Sun 13 Nov, 2011 7:59 pm
Profile
TRAIL PORN STAR
User avatar

Joined: Thu 16 Jul, 2009 7:08 pm
Posts: 3159
Location: Rio Brisbanero
Post Re: Trials tyre test
Rocket wrote:
Looks like you have gone to the DARK SIDE Loony :ky

I wont try one as i like to be able to STOP laughing9


Yeah be interested to see what Freaky reckons on the downhill stopping side
I think i basicaly am very aggressive when it comes to rear braking dontknow
Like anything new you have to adapt ( or get yoused to it ) just at the moment .i don,t know whether i want to ( Coz i really like my brake slides ) :D
I must say the biggest problem with these tyres is they look poo BangHead


Sun 13 Nov, 2011 8:07 pm
Profile
TRAIL GURU

Joined: Mon 05 Jul, 2010 10:46 pm
Posts: 874
Post Re: Trials tyre test
I only used to get 2 race meets on each side using a michelin trails tyre. Very soft compound that they have, How do you think it will last out on the trails. They can be a bit hairy when wanting to pull up in a hurry. I used to use both brakes when i needed to stop in a hurry. (Using the front brake as an ABS Effect) As you lock up the back brake it leans over, But if you touch the front brake as well, it would stand the bike up straight again. confused2 "Crikey" Did i just say all of that :o


Sun 13 Nov, 2011 8:11 pm
Profile
TRA Forum Fixer
User avatar

Joined: Mon 28 Jun, 2010 10:20 pm
Posts: 1610
Location: Warner - NW Brisbane
Post Re: Trials tyre test
lunatick wrote:

I think i basicaly am very aggressive when it comes to rear braking dontknow


I grew up riding dirt bikes with crap front tyres, and I never relied on the front for much braking. I used the rear brake heavily.

Then I got a license and starting riding on the road on road biased tyres. On the road the front does almost all the braking, so I developed a strong confidence in the front for braking, even while entering corners.

Now back on dirt bikes I find myself braking way harder with the front than I ever used to. Even locking the front occasionally but not being bothered by it dontknow

_________________
Wes - www.offroadvw.net -bikes
http://www.taylorcycles.com.au My DH MTB racing bro's shop.


Sun 13 Nov, 2011 8:18 pm
Profile WWW
TRAIL PORN STAR
User avatar

Joined: Thu 16 Jul, 2009 7:08 pm
Posts: 3159
Location: Rio Brisbanero
Post Re: Trials tyre test
1650bullet wrote:
I only used to get 2 race meets on each side using a michelin trails tyre. Very soft compound that they have, How do you think it will last out on the trails. They can be a bit hairy when wanting to pull up in a hurry. I used to use both brakes when i needed to stop in a hurry. (Using the front brake as an ABS Effect) As you lock up the back brake it leans over, But if you touch the front brake as well, it would stand the bike up straight again. confused2 "Crikey" Did i just say all of that :o


I,m thinking it will last at least twice as long as an M404
Coz after today it still looks brand new dontknow
I know what your saying with the braking ( i think ) :D
I think i,ll have to change my riding style a bit to suit them

I reckon the smoother styled rider you are the better these things would be dontknow


Sun 13 Nov, 2011 8:20 pm
Profile
TRAIL GURU

Joined: Mon 05 Jul, 2010 10:46 pm
Posts: 874
Post Re: Trials tyre test
I have i pic of me back in 04 With the back tyre almost peeling of the rim but its hiden away in the garage somewhere, I used to run about 8psi on race days. I quickly found this pic on the web, If you look you can see the rear tyre with a bit of side wall flex. So they do work well in the rough and loose terrain.


Attachments:
image.jpg
image.jpg [ 52.9 KiB | Viewed 2387 times ]
Sun 13 Nov, 2011 8:26 pm
Profile
TRAIL PORN STAR
User avatar

Joined: Thu 16 Jul, 2009 7:08 pm
Posts: 3159
Location: Rio Brisbanero
Post Re: Trials tyre test
pneumatic wrote:
lunatick wrote:

I think i basicaly am very aggressive when it comes to rear braking dontknow


I grew up riding dirt bikes with crap front tyres, and I never relied on the front for much braking. I used the rear brake heavily.

Then I got a license and starting riding on the road on road biased tyres. On the road the front does almost all the braking, so I developed a strong confidence in the front for braking, even while entering corners.

Now back on dirt bikes I find myself braking way harder with the front than I ever used to. Even locking the front occasionally but not being bothered by it dontknow


Yeah i know what your saying Wes
As you know i,ve basicaly come from a Sportsbike and downhill mtb background
So i use the front brake pretty hard , and here lies the problem , when you use the front hard all the weight goes to the front wheel which leaves the rear light and prone to locking which isn,t really a problem with a knobbie whereas the trial tyre doesn,t seem to recover.
dontknow


Sun 13 Nov, 2011 8:54 pm
Profile
TRAIL PORN STAR
User avatar

Joined: Thu 16 Jul, 2009 7:08 pm
Posts: 3159
Location: Rio Brisbanero
Post Re: Trials tyre test
1650bullet wrote:
I have i pic of me back in 04 With the back tyre almost peeling of the rim but its hiden away in the garage somewhere, I used to run about 8psi on race days. I quickly found this pic on the web, If you look you can see the rear tyre with a bit of side wall flex. So they do work well in the rough and loose terrain.


Yep they powerslide well icon_thumright


Sun 13 Nov, 2011 8:55 pm
Profile
TRAIL HACK

Joined: Tue 04 Oct, 2011 7:58 pm
Posts: 170
Location: on tha poota
Post Re: Trials tyre test
I used to live in Mildura which is like the Speedway Capital of Oz, we used to get the ex race tyres when things were tight and couldnt afford a new knobby, from memory great until you encounter mud, as they became slick real quick, was no hills or rocks there to try em on but i would think they would be excellent, i always couldnt wait until they were worn out so i could get a 'good looking' tyre again, but they used to last pretty well . . . . . .

_________________
2012 Gas Gas Nambotin


Sun 13 Nov, 2011 9:32 pm
Profile
TRAIL LEGEND
User avatar

Joined: Tue 14 Jul, 2009 1:31 pm
Posts: 1257
Post Re: Trials tyre test
Hello Lunatic,
What pressure did you run?
Has Freaks spun on his rim at all or flat spotted his rim to your knowledge?
It does look out of place on your bike dontknow
Paul

_________________
Paul CR 500 AF-X and Donna 2007 450X + OTHERS
Turning Dollars into Dust


Sun 13 Nov, 2011 10:06 pm
Profile
TRAIL PORN STAR
User avatar

Joined: Thu 16 Jul, 2009 7:08 pm
Posts: 3159
Location: Rio Brisbanero
Post Re: Trials tyre test
Paul450X wrote:
Hello Lunatic,
What pressure did you run?
Has Freaks spun on his rim at all or flat spotted his rim to your knowledge?
It does look out of place on your bike dontknow
Paul


I run 10 pound in mine today and it did spin on the rim
Dales running 2 bead locks so he should be fine dontknow


Sun 13 Nov, 2011 10:12 pm
Profile
TRAIL LEGEND
User avatar

Joined: Tue 14 Jul, 2009 1:31 pm
Posts: 1257
Post Re: Trials tyre test
I would worry about dents in the rim although they have a taller sidewall than a nobbie.
Love to get out for a ride butcant see it in the near future.
Paul

_________________
Paul CR 500 AF-X and Donna 2007 450X + OTHERS
Turning Dollars into Dust


Sun 13 Nov, 2011 10:17 pm
Profile
TRAIL LEGEND

Joined: Fri 18 Jun, 2010 9:12 pm
Posts: 1330
Location: The part of warner i thought was good till i got robbed
Post Re: Trials tyre test
in the late 80s that's all I ran on my IT at beer !! worked well !! works good on road aS WELL !!


Sun 13 Nov, 2011 11:32 pm
Profile
TRAIL PORN STAR
User avatar

Joined: Wed 15 Jul, 2009 12:27 pm
Posts: 3351
Post Re: Trials tyre test
It sounds like the less weight on the tyre the less traction.When the you slam on the front brakes that makes the bike lurch forward and there for no weight on the back tyre.Back tyres work better when the back suspension is compressed so it works properly.
When i go down hills the bike is that light that it speeds up if im not on to it early,even with my fat arse right over the back


Mon 14 Nov, 2011 6:45 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 45 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
support our sponsors Servicing Australia
Info on how to become a sponsor here. Full directory listing of sponsors here.



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron


Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by STSoftware for PTF.